Sec. 2 of Pt. Two THE TASER QUESTIONS- DIXIE

Section 2 of Part Two the Taser question:

See  section one :  Lorain- The Taser Question Pt2. Dixie Shooting | OH Her Again! (oheragain.com)

 Before I tell of my meeting at the Lorain Police Department and my  experience and information gathered re the shooting of a Taser, I  want to  address a couple of questions and concerns  members of City  of Lorain Politics Face Book Page and other pages have raised.  

 

Firstly, there have been any number of people that accused the Officer of shooting the dog “gangster ” style  on social media.

Once again, IF THEY HAD BOTHERED TO READ THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT they would have found the explanation on page 40.

It should be noted, OPS observed that Officer Palmer canted his weapon after he stopped firing. This is not to say that Officer Palmer canted the weapon while he was firing. At this point of the encounter Officer Palmer was utilizing his right hand to key up his microphone to advise dispatch of the situation.

Additionally, during police firearms training, officers are trained to rotate the weapon inward because it utilizes more muscle mass and upper body strength to control the weapon, especially if the officer is in movement. It is more ergonomically correct. The contention that Officer Palmer was shooting “gangster style” with his weapon turned sideways is disingenuous and without merit.

I also asked Chief McCann about this misconception and  canted the weapon!

A:  The last shot was fired prior to Officer Palmer canting his weapon.  Officer Palmer was talking on his portable radio at the time his weapon was canted.  It’s as simple as that.

 Secondly. The observation and criticism that the Officer put lives in danger by shooting in a residential area with crowds of people. 

I have looked at the still photos of the shots fired -PAGES,  27, 28,29, 30 AND 31 of the Investigate Report 

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Figure 4 – NOTE IN THIS PHOTO —– BEFORE THE SHOOTING THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE, THE KERNS IN THE AREA OF THEIR PROPERY and the neighbors —–– NO-ONE ELSE IS VISIBLE ON THE STREET.

Figure 7 – the dog makes her run 12.59 06 –    .04 seconds elapsed. 

NOTE: in this photo there is no-one on the sidewalk, except the Kern women and a man and no-one on the road

Figure 10- the first shot within 4 feet of the Officer.  No-one in the vicinity)

within 4 feet from the Officer

 Figure 12, the dog runs down Oberlin Ave, again no-one visible on the sidewalk or in the road or vicinity. This photo also shows the opposite side of the street.

Figure 13 Officer disengages (stops shooting) Again there is no-one in the street or vicinity

 It is my contention based on looking at the body cam still that during the actual shooting there was no-one in the vicinity at the time of the shooting!

I do not see anyone in the frames behind the officer. I would suggest that upon hearing the shots people came out and saw the aftermath.

I did see, on more than one face book page, from that Sunday afternoon people video with phones and one gentleman screaming and swearing at the officers, who had then arrived at the scene.

He went on for a very long time at the top of his voice. (THAT VIDEO HAS NOW BEEN TAKEN DOWN)  but at the time of that video  people had gathered and were extremely  upset in fact in Body Camera footage  lorainpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/EPalmer_1942_07022023125929-1.mp4

You can hear the officer saying “AFTER” the shooting – “  Get me a bunch  of cars out here we’ve got a bunch  of people coming out.”

 

I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST TO THOSE THAT WERE ALSO CRITICIAL OF THE OFFICERS TONE YOU “  WATCH  FROM MINUTE 1;10 THROUGH  2;39 AND THE ESCALATION OF THE EVENT.

Quite frankly that was a very bad and emotional situation that was volatile situation that was escalating, screaming, obscenities.  threatening to have badges, sue etc.  at the top  of their voices.  Surrounding responding Officers  and getting in their faces.  Turn on the sound……

 NONE of the people (apart from the vehicle on the corner of 8th and Oberlin)   were shown in the previous shots.

I can only  assume the person in the vehicle was  Coleen Pardissis  , who  saw the last shot not the first  and whose witness statement is  incorrect.( Section One of this report)  and the Kerns  were seen in the video or still shots.

Not being able to find any other video, they have been deleted  I asked Chief McCann:

Q I have looked at still shots , the body  cam and I only  see in both directions on (the  west side of Oberlin Avenue at least)  no-one but the 2 family ( Kerns)  females  and the lone male  to  the north  and no-one to  the south. Do you have an film or information that says differently?

Also, I would hazard a GUESS on my part that individuals came out of their homes etc. AFTER the shots. Do  you  have any  body  cam footage  by  the responding officers that show the  mood, tone  and demeanor  that was shown by  the gathering individuals  toward the Officer and officers ?

Chief McCann:  I have been told there is video out there of the after math of the shooting.  I have not been able to find it.  The BWC footage clearly show people were upset and angry so they were verbally aggressive.

How do you   respond to the fact the officers has been “called out for his tone of voice and demeanor?

 Chief McCann:  It was a stressful situation for everyone.  Palmer was most likely pushing back to all the anger against him from the crowd that gathered after the incident, which is why he was directed by a supervisor to report to the station.

What would be the LPD policy IF there had been a crowd ? 

Chief McCann: Officers have a right to self-defense from attack from a person or a dog. 

 To be continued

 

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